Unofficial
Advising Information for the
"AA Engineering" Degree at TCC

from James Carr
Office: SM 290
Phone: 201-8971

Office hours   can be found here   along with E-mail addresses
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Last updated: 7 August 2006

Please click here and read some important suggestions and warnings.

Two examples of how those warnings apply to persons wishing to complete the AA Engineering program:

(1) The 2 credit EGS2141C drafting and CAD class has not been offered for at least two years. Taking EGS1111C and ETD1320 to replace it will add 4 credits to your total and require some adjustments to the schedule shown here. (I suspect they keep this course on the books to maintain the illusion that the AA Engineering degree can be completed in only 60 hours.)

(2) Scheduling for EGS2311 and EGS2321 has been unpredictable. EGS2311 was last taught in Fall 2005. The 2006-2007 TCC catalog states that EGS2311 is taught in the spring, but it is not listed in the guaranteed annual schedule for Spring 2007. Check with the TPP Division to find out their current plans and/or to petition for it to be offered. Shifting it down one semester will not complicate the schedule below too much because there are several 3-credit classes you can move up to replace it.

I provide an alternative schedule at the bottom of this page that takes these two problems into account.

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Schedule for "AA Engineering" at TCC

This is not really a schedule I would recommend to anyone at TCC, but I include it here to show that it is possible to complete the offical AA Engineering program in 2 years with a reasonable course load, provided you enter prepared to start in calculus ... and provided the TPP Division offers the classes listed in the catalog when you need to take them.

Sem. Math and Science Classes Liberal Arts Classes
  MAC2147 CHM1030 or HS chem ENC0020 and REA0002
  (classes above are pre-req's) (classes above are prep courses)
1 MAC2311 CHM1045+L EGS2141C ENC1101 .  
2 MAC2312 PHY2048+L   ENC1102 .  
x MAP2302 .   Hum 1 History 1  
3 MAC2313 PHY2049+L EGS2311 . .  
4 . . EGS2321 Hum 2 History 2 HSC1100
x Dual Enroll? COP2220 . POS1041  

COP2220 has a prerequisite of CGS1000 that is not shown in this schedule under the assumption that you can pass the exemption exam and go directly into a basic computer programming class.

The pairing of the humanities sequence and the history sequence makes it possible to pair up HUM2210 and HUM2230 with the parallel Western Civilization courses EUH1000 and EUH1001. Several students have recommended this because the overlap between these courses makes learning particularly efficient. (Historical developments are often tied to developments in literature and the arts, and vice versa.) However, students going to FSU need to take a multi-cultural class and might prefer taking American history along with a combination of alternative humanities classes that will satisfy that requirement. They could also substitute a multicultural social science class for POS1041 and add POS1061 to the schedule.

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Additional Classes in this schedule

MAP2302 (Differential Equations) is not part of this program, but I highly recommend it before taking an engineering dynamics class. Either MAP2302 or "E-Math I" is required for every engineering major. Programs that require "E-Math II" (a course in partial differential equations) may require that you take E-Math I or Linear Algebra to satisfy its prerequisites.

COP2220 (Introduction to C) is not part of this program but is highly recommended (and sometimes required) when entering junior-level classes in engineering school. I also recommend taking it before using MAPLE in MAC2313, but this is not essential.

These add 6 hours to the nominal 60 hour AA Engineering program, but you will notice that they fill in gaps that result from the scheduling of MAC2313, PHY2049, and EGS2311 (which cannot be taken until you have passed PHY2048 and MAC2311). Filling those gaps with courses required by most engineering schools is a good plan.

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Realistic Schedule for "AA Engineering" at TCC

This schedule replaces the 2 credit EGS2141C drafting and CAD class with EGS1111C and ETD1320, which adds 4 hours to your schedule. These courses are offered regularly during the school year. I have also shifted EGS2311 and EGS2321 to Spring/Summer to show how that could work, although I have no idea if TCC will offer those classes on that schedule. See note above.

Sem. Math and Science Classes Liberal Arts Classes
  MAC2147 CHM1030 or HS chem ENC0020 and REA0002
  (classes above are pre-req's) (classes above are prep courses)
1 MAC2311 CHM1045+L EGS1111C ENC1101 .  
2 MAC2312 PHY2048+L   ENC1102 .  
x MAP2302 . ETD1320 . POS1041  
3 MAC2313 PHY2049+L COP2220 . .  
4 . . EGS2311 Hum 1 History 1 HSC1100
x . . EGS2321 Hum 2 History 2  

COP2220 has a prerequisite of CGS1000 that is not shown in this schedule under the assumption that you can pass the exemption exam and go directly into a basic computer programming class.

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