Unofficial
Scheduling Advice
for future engineering majors now at TCC

from Dr. James Carr
Office: SM 290
Phone: 201-8971

Office hours   can be found here   along with E-mail addresses
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Last updated: 30 July 2009
REVISIONS should be COMPLETE

See my main Engineering Advising page for information about the very strict admission policies of all accredited engineering schools.

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Check with an advisor at your transfer college before making final plans.

Take charge of your career! No single plan can work for everyone. This page is primarily for students planning to go to the FAMU-FSU College of Engineering. A separate page spells out a schedule containing the minimum recommended set of courses required to transfer to Florida. To save space, some comments about all of these plans are on a separate page. Click here to read those observations that apply to persons planning to major in engineering.

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Full-Time Schedule Suggestion

This first program is similar to a general example that is appropriate only for a student who came in well prepared in math: it applies to a student who has used the CLM exam to place beyond college algebra and earns at least a B in pre-calc and trig on the first try. It covers all of the calculus courses in two years. I include a multicultural course that shows one way to meet that FSU requirement, but no other pre-engineering courses (such as drafting, EGS1111C and ETD1320, or computer programming, thru COP2221) that will be required for some majors. In addition, few students can handle some of these semesters while working more than 10 to 15 hours per week.

Sem. Math and Science Classes Liberal Arts Classes
  MAC1105 ENC0020 and REA0002
  (the class above is a pre-req) (classes above are prep courses)
1 MAC2140 Elective * Drafting ? * ENC1101 History 1  
2 MAC2114 CHM1045+L Computer ? * ENC1102 History 2  
x MAC2311     HUM2210 *    
3 MAC2312 PHY2048+L     HSC1100  
4 MAC2313 PHY2049+L     Soc. Sci. *  
x MAP2302     HUM2230 * POS1041 ? *  
 
  * Elective: Civil Engineering majors should take GLY1030 at this time. Environmental majors who choose BSC2010 rather than GLY1030 should take CHM1045+L here in the fall, then take biology. Other students should fill in their gen-ed science distribution requirement at this time. Students going to UF should take CHM1045+L here followed by CHM1046 (and lab, if needed) or the other required "second science".

  * Drafting ?: Civil Engineering students can take EGS1111C (drafting), plus ETD1320 (AutoCAD) instead of a programming class. Most students will benefit from learning the basics of drafting (EGS1111C) even if it is not required for their major, but Electrical and Computer majors need to take COP2220 (intro to C) instead so they can take a second programming course.
Computer ?: Civil engineering students should take AutoCAD in this slot and meet the computer literacy requirement some other way. Mechanical engineering students can benefit from taking a introductory programming class in C (COP2220), which requires taking or exempting CGS1000. Electrical or Computer engineering majors require the equivalent of COP3014 (C++) at FSU, so they must take or exempt CGS1000 and then take COP2220 (into to C) followed by COP2221 (intermediate C++). If FSU will allow it, you could take COP2800 (Java) instead of COP2221. There are some good reasons to choose Java over C++ if you have that choice.
If you only need to meet the general computer literacy requirement, I'd recommend choosing a way that will get you lots of experience with presentation software like PowerPoint. It will be used in your engineering classes.

  * HUM2210: There are some interesting alternatives to the standard sequence that also meet the FSU multicultural requirement. Meeting that requirement with a humanities class will free up an extra social science class for those who need to take economics.

  * Social Science: Several majors require ECO2023. All FSU students must meet their multicultural requirement, either with something like SYG2230 or SYG2010 or take a particular humanities combination that contains a multi-cultural course. Another option is to take AMH2091, the African-American history course that all FAMU students need to take, as an elective.

  * POS1041 ?: FAMU-FSU now requires a total of 18 hours of social sciences and humanities, so you should take POS1041 (national government) or POS1121 (state and local government) to meet this requirement. If you have enough credits from other humanities and social science classes, you can take the one-credit POS1601 course to meet this TCC graduation requirement. You can take POS1601 via "credit by exam" or SPI, but students say it is much easier to take the 1 hour per week class or take it in a six-week semester.

This program includes a total of 67 credits (70 if you must take a CGS class rather than exempt it) by the end of the second summer. When you transfer, they will ignore 7-10 of your beginning math credits to get you down to 60 transfer hours. You can, under some circumstances, graduate with 64 credits and still take MAP2302 at TCC if you have been accepted for transfer prior to doing so. The process is called "Dual Enrollment". Check into dual enrollment before you apply for graduation.

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IMPORTANT:
I don't know if the drafting and computer classes will be offered during the semesters shown in these schedules. You can get a good idea of when they are offered during the fall and spring semesters by looking at schedules for previous years, but the best bet is to check with the office of the Dean of the TPP division to see what is planned.

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Here is a second schedule, one that takes an extra semester with graduation in December and a spring start in engineering school. It is set up to include the two C++ classes needed by electrial engineering majors, but does not include a specific multicultural course for those going to FSU.

Sem. Math and Science Classes Liberal Arts Classes
  MAT1033 ENC0020 and REA0002
  (the class above is a pre-req) (classes above are prep courses)
1 MAC1105     ENC1101 AMH2010 POS1041
2 MAC2140 Science *   ENC1102 AMH2020  
x MAC2114 CHM1045+L   . .  
3 MAC2311 . COP2220 * HUM2210 Soc. Sci. *  
4 MAC2312 PHY2048+L   . CLP1001  
x MAP2302 . COP2221 . .  
5 MAC2313 PHY2049+L   HUM2230 .  

  * COP2220 requires passing CGS1000 or passing an exemption test to get in.

  * Science elective from the biological or earth science area could be a class like BSC1005, ESC1000, or GLY1030.

  * Soc. Sci. elective can actually be any class in the history, social science, or humanities area. It should be used to meet the FSU multicultural requirement if you have not done so with another class.

To save space, I have omitted notes that duplicate the ones for the first schedule or are given elsewhere.

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The third schedule also requires an extra semester. It is set up to include the two drafting classes that transer to FSU for civil engineering majors, and also shows two specific humanities classes that meet the FSU multicultural requirement. It could also be used by a mechanical engineer.

Sem. Math and Science Classes Liberal Arts Classes
  MAT1033 ENC0020 and REA0002
  (the class above is a pre-req) (classes above are prep courses)
1 MAC1105 . EGS1111C ENC1101 History 1 POS1041
2 MAC2140 Science *   ENC1102 History 2  
x MAC2114 . EGS1111C HUM2521 .  
3 MAC2311 CHM1045+L   REL2300 .  
4 MAC2312 PHY2048+L   . CLP1001  
x MAP2302 . ETD1320 * . .  
5 MAC2313 PHY2049+L   . Soc. Sci. *  

  * Science elective from the biological or earth science area could be a class like BSC1005, ESC1000, or GLY1030.

  * ETD1320 (AutoCAD) could be replaced with COP2220 for a mechanical engineer that prefers some programming experience, although the CAD class would also be useful.

  * Soc. Sci. elective can actually be any class in the history, social science to meet the 18-hour requirement FAMU-FSU added for Fall 2009. This could be ECO2023, since you met the multi-cultural requirement with a humanities class.

To save space, I have omitted notes that duplicate the ones for the first schedule or are given elsewhere.

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Chemistry Schedule Suggestion

This three-year schedule maintains a modest course load (generally 12 hours per regular semester and 6 in the summer) while including organic chemistry. It also includes a few superfluous courses because it was assembled from the actual transcript of a student who went on to major in Chemistry (after originally planning to major in Biochemistry or Chemical Engineering). The only changes I made were to drop one course on the liberal arts side to reduce the credit load, put pre-calc and trig in the right order, and add an FSU multiculutural course so that it is more like what you would come up with by working with your advisor. This was put together quite a few years ago, so it does not match all of the current FAMU-FSU requirements.

Sem. Math and Science Classes Liberal Arts Classes
  MAT1033 ENC0020 and REA0002
  (the class above is a pre-req) (classes above are prep courses)
1 MAC1105 . BSC1005 x ENC1101 EUH1000 THE1000
2 MAC2140 . AST1002 x ENC1102 EUH1001  
x MAC2114 .   . ANT2211  
3 MAC2311 CHM1045+L   THE2100 .  
4 MAC2312 CHM1046+L   HUM2521 .  
x   . COP2220 * . . HSC1100
5 CHM2210+L PHY2048+L BSC2010+L . .  
6 CHM2211+L PHY2049+L COP2220 . POS1112 *  

  x These gen-ed courses would end up not counting toward graduation, but they are interesting and BSC1005 is a good warmup for BSC2010 if you did not take a HS biology class.

  * COP2220 has been put in to replace MAP2302, which is not required for chemical engineering but was required for a chemistry degree. (A chemistry major also requires a third semester of a foreign language.) Note that COP2220 requires passing either CGS1000 or an exemption test to get in.

  * POS1121 is the local government course, which is an alternative to taking POS1041 (national government). ANT2211 meets the multicultural requirement for FSU. A FAMU student would take AMH2091.

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